This is a collection of postings from alt.tv.twin-peaks describing what to see and do in the Snoqualmie, WA area where much of Twin Peaks was filmed. It is available for anonymous ftp from hanauma.Stanford.EDU (36.51.0.16) as pub/tp_snoqualmie. I will gladly include any new information or corrections if you send them to me. Have fun, Steve ----------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Cole (steve@sep.stanford.edu, apple!sep!steve) Department of Geophysics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305 The following people posted articles that are contained here. If any of you would prefer that your words not get redistributed, let me know and I will remove your postings from my file. -Steve stephena@microsoft.UUCP (Paddington Bear) * nielsb@cs.tamu.edu (Niels Bauer) halcyon!hikaru@sumax.seattleu.edu (Richard Barrett) larryy@Apple.COM (Larry Yaeger) stevenh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Steven C Herring) jguy@lilith.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Bone) donh@microsoft.com (Don HACHERL) sandell@ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) glandon@nmt.edu (Gregory Landon) schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz) athena@cheshire.oxy.edu (Staci Ann Waldroop) saseph@hal.unx.sas.com (Ed Hughes) Article 2403 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From stephena@microsoft.UUCP (Paddington Bear) Subject: Re: more merchandising on the way Date: 8 Aug 90 17:02:14 GMT Reply-To: stephena@microsoft.UUCP (Paddington Bear) Organization: The Bear Preserve at Cold Comfort Farm |In article user@darkside.com (A Modem User) writes: |>eyeater@pbs.org writes: |>IMPORTANT! INFORMATION NEEDED IN A HURRY! |> |>I'm going up to Seattle on THURSDAY and plan to make a one-day trip to |>Snoqualmie just to get some pictures. I know some of you have been there Take I-90 to North Bend. Go left under the freeway and enter the town. The MAR-T Diner (a/k/a R&R) is on your right as you come into town. They sell TP goodies. (So does nearly everyone else in North Bend....) From North Bend, follow the signs to Snoqualmie Falls. The huge log used in the opening credits is on your left near the railroad tracks. Just about 1/4 mile further are the railroad cars where Cooper and Truman found the half-heart locket and the note. Continue west. You'll see the Salish Lodge which was used for the exteriors of the Great Northern Hotel. Stop and look at Snoqualmie Falls if you've a mind to. Continue west to the town of Fall City. As you enter Fall City, bear left. Directly ahead of you is a restaurant that was used for the exterior of the roadhouse (the interiors were fillmed in Seattle at the Timberline Tavern). Continue on the road towards I-90. In Preston, you'll see a kite shop on the left. That was used for Big Ed's Gas Farm. You won't recognize it. If you have time, turn around and pass through Fall City. At the bridge, bear left towards Carnation. In Carnation, you will pass an elementary school on the north side of town. This is the interior and exterior setting for the Sherrif's Office. That's all........ -- Steve Arrants (And here it is, the enormous night.) Best path: ...uunet!microsof!stephena Blame me, not Microsoft. I work for them, they let me post. Follow your BLISS and doors open where there were no doors before. Article 2424 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: * Subject: Re: more merchandising on the way Date: 9 Aug 90 21:23:50 GMT * |In article user@darkside.com |> |>I'm going up to Seattle on THURSDAY and plan to make a one-day trip to |>Snoqualmie just to get some pictures. I know some of you have been there >Take I-90 to North Bend. Go left under the freeway and enter the >town. The MAR-T Diner (a/k/a R&R) is on your right as you come into >That's all........ Ah...you forgot about the gazebo! As you are heading north through town (Snoqualimie Falls) you will see it on the right near the railroad tracks. The falls are incrediable and an interesting fact....the drop is greater than Niagra Falls. There is a diner and a restaurant there. The restaurant is mighty expensive. * Article 6475 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From nielsb@cs.tamu.edu (Niels Bauer) Subject: TP map and more Date: 6 Nov 90 21:31:22 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University I know Lucy's trip to Tacoma is a thing of the past, but with so much static about 'going down to Tacoma', it seemed like a little geography lesson was in order. True, Tacoma is southwest of "Twin Peaks", but to get there one would probably take I90 towards Seattle (west) then I5 to Tacoma (south). So really it's not all that unreasonable to say 'going down to Tocama'. Also if you check your phone books you'll notice that practically the entire western half of Washington falls under the 206 area code. The following is a map of the Seattle/TP area (no it is not to scale, but I tried). | British Columbia, Canada |--------------------------------------------------------- | | | E___ Legend: ------ / / \___I203 OP = Olympic Penusila / / | \ Ps = Puget Sound / | | F T = Tocama | | Se______ \ Se = Seattle OP |PS | | I90 \___S_ E = Everitt | | | \_N_ F = Fall City | | | \___ S = Snoqualmie \ / | I5 N = North Bend --- / T--/ Here are some distances as well: From: To: Miles: Seattle Snoqualmie 28 Seattle Tocama 32 Seattle Spokane 280 Seattle Vancouver, BC 164 The tri-cities, I believe, refer to Fall City, Snoqualmie, and North Bend (all of which are in King County). Here is some more information I have not seen posted yet: 1) While most now know that the Great Northern is the Salish Lodge in real life, the indoor scenes of the Great Northerm are really shot at the Kiana Lodge on Bainbridge Island in Puget Sound. 2) The Kiana Lodge also provides settings for the Blue Lake Lodge, where Pete and Catherine Martell and Josie Packard live(d). 3) The Mar T Cafe in North Bend serves as the exterior for the RR Diner. 4) The Weyerhauser Administration building serves as the sheriff's dept. 5) The Colonial Inn in Fall City serves as the Road House. 6) These and other TP facts/trivia, plus a synopsis of last season, description of major characters/actors, and more can be found in "Welcome to Twin Peaks: A Complete Guide to Who's Who & What's What" by Scott Knickelbine published by Publications International. Also: 1) Have only seen a few brief mentions of the soundtrack. It's a must for Peaks Freaks. From an audiophile's point of view it is somewhat flawed (noisy analog source, inconsistent mixing, sometimes poor recording/engineering, etc.), but even so it is a must for anyone's TP collection. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Niels Bauer | Don't blame me, I'm just a Department of Computer Science | graduate student! Texas A&M University | niels@visual1.tamu.edu | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Article 8401 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From halcyon!hikaru@sumax.seattleu.edu (Richard Barrett) Subject: Re: tourist guide to Twin Peaks Date: 6 Dec 90 00:58:59 GMT Organization: The 23:00 News mok@pawl.rpi.edu (... Mok) writes: > In article <1990Dec3.153541.26013@cbnewsd.att.com> miata@cbnewsd.att.com (ste > >> I'm going to be up in the Seattle area next weekend and was hoping to > >> drive up to Snoqualmie (sp?) Falls and see the various Twin Peaks > >> sights. Could someone send me info/directions to the little-known > >> locations - the sheriff's office, the Double R Diner, etc. > >> > >************* > >My wife and I will also be spending some time in the "Twin Peaks" area. > >Our first wedding anniversary is January 1, 1991, and we decided that > >we couldn't think of anywhere we'd better like to spend it than at the > >Great Northern Hotel (the Salish Lodge, to those who reamin rooted in > >the real world). > As for the rest: The scenery MUST be seen! The falls in particular are > incredible. The Salish Lodge *is* thre Great Northern (and just as > beautiful), but not as classy. Uh, ahem... according to a recent article in the Seattle P-I, the Salish Lodge was used only for external shots of the Great Northern. The nearby Kiana Lodge (actually, I'm not sure if it's so nearby - it's in Poulsbo) was used for internal shots of the Great Northern. So if you want to stay in the same room as ol' Coop, that's where you gotta go... also, the beach scene in the pilot (when Laura's body was found) was filmed there. ************************************************************************** "Mr. BOB, you've killed Theresa Banks, * Richard Barrett Laura Palmer, Jacques Renault, and * 18004 146th Ave NE Maddy Ferguson. What are you going to * Woodinville, WA 98072 do next?" * (206)487-1312 "I'm going to Disneyland!" *hikaru%halcyon.uucp@seattleu.edu ************************************************************************** Article 15843 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From larryy@Apple.COM (Larry Yaeger) Subject: Re: Kiana Lodge Date: 27 Jul 91 04:41:12 GMT Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA In article <1991Jul26.195317.7454@ns.uoregon.edu> rhaller@phloem.uoregon.edu writes: >Where is the Kiana Lodge located? In Poulsbo, Washington. Their chamber of commerce will send you some nice info and maps on the area, though they don't mention the Kiana Lodge. But when you talk to them in person, they do know about it, and it's TP connection. I think the area code is 206 (but you probably ought to check with your long distance operator); you can use directory assistance to get the number for both the chamber of commerce and the Kiana Lodge. Despite its name, the Kiana Lodge does not have sleeping rooms for rent. The Kiana Lodge is strictly a sort of meeting place, with banquet facilities and such. It is a neat place to visit. You will definitely recognize the interiors, with the Indian animal/spirit drawings on the natural wood what you see in the Great Northern. Lovely place. They have a small gift shop with nice mugs and T-shirts, too (though none of them mention Twin Peaks). On the day I visited, they had several hundred people, many in native costumes, doing dances to ethnic music. At first we thought they might be Norwegian, and were considerably "Peaked"; we later found out that they were Estonians, but it was a hoot anyway. Poulsbo, by the way, is about 2 hours away from Snoqualmie/North Bend. It is on the other side of Seattle. And, be warned, though the shortest land route connecting Poulsbo and Snoqualmie goes quite a ways out of the way, you may want to consider it, as the ferry backs up rather drastically, and took us over an hour of waiting before we even began the ferry ride. Perhaps there is some way to enquire about the wait at the ferry by phone. Hope this helps. I could probably find the maps and stuff, and pin down the location a little better for you, but if you're headed that way, you'll probably want maps of your own. -- -larryy@apple.com "You wouldn't recognize a *subtle plan* if it painted itself purple, and danced naked upon a harpsichord, singing, 'Subtle Plans are Here Again'." - Edmund Blackadder Article 16152 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From larryy@Apple.COM (Larry Yaeger) Subject: Re: Taking a trip to Twin Peaks Date: 22 Aug 91 02:55:16 GMT Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA A couple of people have asked about information on making the pilgrimage to Twin Peaks. I'd originally intended to write up a kind of personal travelogue of the adventures of my wife and I on our visit there, but instead, I'll try to just give you the info that'll let you see as much as possible... First off, if you have the time (an extra half-day to full-day depending upon your origin point and travel plans), it's well worth visiting the Kiana Lodge near Poulsbo, WA as well. This is about 2 hours from Snoqualmie, on the other side of Seattle. This is the place that was used for interiors of the Great Northern, especially the lobby, and for the Packard/Martell home. The large indian drawings are right there on the wood walls. There's a deer head or two that are recognizably placed. And the rear of the main building, that is adjacent to the water, is easily recognizable as the Packard/Martell home. The very large hunk of wood outside their home, where Pete discovered Laura's body, is also very obvious. The Kiana Lodge is not a hotel, but a place for meetings and such, so you cannot plan on staying there. There are lodgings nearby (the Poulsbo Chamber of Commerce can direct you to some), but you can also visit the Lodge midday, and comfortably make it to the Salish Lodge in Snoqualmie that afternoon. The phone number for the Poulsbo Chamber of Commerce is 206-779-4848 or 206-779-4999. The Greater Poulsbo area is also known as "Little Norway" (so I guess *all* the Norwegians didn't leave:-) ! The Kiana Lodge, itself, is located in either Sandy Hook or Agate Pass, WA (according to one T-Shirt and one Sweatshirt available in the nice gift shop located there). It is just off highway 305, at the extreme southern end of the North Kitsap Peninsula. Take 305 to Sandy Hook Rd, and take Sandy Hook Rd (south, the only way it goes) until it almost ends at the bay. Look for a very small (about 10" x 12") sign sitting on the ground, on your left as you approach the bay. Now, on to Snoqualmie/North Bend. First, if you are coming from the Kiana Lodge, you can go a somewhat out of the way land route or you can use the ferry at Kingston. Be warned, the ferry can require an hour or more wait in line, so you might actually be better to use the land route. The Salish Lodge, used for exterior shots of the Great Northern, is in Snoqualmie. We took small back roads, and ended up coming in on 203. The Salish appears on your right almost as soon as you enter the Snoqualmie city limits coming this way from Seattle. If you use US 90 (the quicker, major freeway), you can get off at the Preston exit (#22) and take the Preston-Fall City Rd toward Fall City, turn right on 203 at the entrance to Fall City, and you're on your way to the Salish. This takes you past the Windstreamers kite store, better known to us as Big Ed's Gas Farm, and the Colonial Inn, better known as The Roadhouse. Big Ed's is on Preston-Fall City Rd, and will be on the right using this approach, and will be quite obvious. The Colonial is just before the junction with 203, on the right. Facing the Colonial from Preston-Fall City Rd, there is a small field on the left... go there and look back at the Colonial... this is the only face they used for The Roadhouse. The Colonial has nice eggs-bacon-&-hotcakes kind of breakfasts and is quite reasonably priced. Be sure to mention to the Salish staff that you are there because of Twin Peaks. They have a hand drawn map that shows many of the significant sites, and they will be happy to just give you a copy, along with some photocopies of a couple of local PR releases on the show and the area. Be warned, however, that this map is more suggestive than it is accurate, and you might want to invest in a regular road map; I bought an inexpensive Bellvue street map that extended far enough to show the Snoqualmie/North Bend area (though this map doesn't have all the TP sites marked for you, so it's nice to have both). If the Salish isn't providing these maps anymore or has run out, the same map is available for 50 cents from the Alpine Blossom & Gift Shoppe in North Bend. A much more attractive (but even less accurate, I think) map/ poster is available in the Salish's Coffee & Gift Shop at the falls overlook (not in the hotel). I think the Colonial sells the larger, more expensive map also. By the way, the Salish is a wonderful place to stay. It's expensive, ranging from $125 to $450 a night, but it's really lovely. The prices are $125 for a room facing out the front of the hotel, $175 for a room facing the river (though they warned me that not all of these actually can see the river?), and $450 for a suite facing the falls. Those are all the prices they quote over the phone, normally, but when I arrived I was fortunate to discover an intermediate price of $250 for 1/2 of a suite facing the falls; they can split the suites into two rooms, with one being pretty much just a large bedroom, and the other being a *very* nice living area with a really comfy Queen or King size Murphy bed. We lucked into this nice large 1/2 suite for the $250/night price, and ended up staying all 3 days of our visit there (we had originally planned to move to less expensive accomodations in a local Inn). There's a fireplace in most if not all rooms, and the staff comes in daily and sets it up with wood, kindling, and a little newspaper, so all you have to do is light a match to have a nice fire in the fireplace. I'm told that the Sunday Brunch at the Salish is quite the thing, sometimes requiring weeks of advanced reservations (though I think they try to accomodate guests of the hotel if at all possible). Though I wasn't able to partake of the Brunch, I *highly* recommend dining at the Salish. The rabbit dish is fabulous, and everything we had was excellent. Try the reasonably priced Snoqualmie Cabernet Sauvignon if you like red wine (we weren't as thrilled with the Snoqualmie Chardonnay or Sauvignon Blanc, whichever it was we had). But *most of all*, be sure to try the "Corned Duck" appetizer... served on thinly sliced apples, with tiny melon BB's, and a mild, but tangy mustard sauce - best new commestible I've encountered in a while!! Oh yeah, they claim one of the best views of the falls is from the Salish lounge, but the "worst of the 70's" music blaring from the loudspeakers, coupled with what struck us as just another view makes me disrecommend it. However, in the hallway leading to the stairs that take you up to the lounge area are some magazine articles under glass, hanging on the wall, and they tell you of a number of the locations I'm mentioning, in case you lose this post! Okay, well fed and well rested, go take a look at the falls. There's a small gazebo (not *the* gazebo, *yet*) overlook, and farther away from the hotel (but all still just a short walk), a fenced, asphalt overlook. From the latter, you can probably coax a shot much like the opening pan-up- river-and-falls from your camcorder:-) There's a gift and coffee shop near this viewpoint, and they do have slightly different wares than the gift shop located inside the Lodge. Also be sure to grab a picture of the front of the Lodge, including their sign, so you can compare to the sign for The Great Northern that they use on the show. This is also clearly where Audrey gets into the limo to head to school in the show premiere. If you make a right onto 203 out of the hotel, and a quick left onto Mill Pond Rd, you can head towards the railroad trestle where Ronnette Polaski is discovered, the Packard Sawmill (Weyerhauser Mill), and the sheriff's office (the administration building for the Weyerhauser Mill). As you're driving on Mill Pond Rd, look to your left across the pond for a preview of the Mill. And ignore the old railroad tracks that you drive over near here. Continue on and you'll actually drive under the railroad overpass that is the Polaski trestle. You can park and walk up to the tracks. Continuing on past the trestle, you make a veer or turn left on Renig Rd, and another left on Falls Station Rd, I think. Follow signs to the Weyerhauser administration office. Along this route there's an entrance on the left with a guard shack that you can just ignore (ignore the entrance, that is). The route to the administration office is marked and easily accessible (not guarded). From the parking lot of the admin. office, there's a good view of the Mill, and the admin. office itself *is* the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Station. Go around to the long side of the building, and there will be the familiar double doors, with the stone plaque out front. Just inside the doors you'll see Lucy's office and everything! The people there are very nice, and, I asked first, but they didn't mind my videotaping inside the facility. You can get back to the Salish by retracing your steps, or you can go through the town of Snoqualmie by coming back Falls Station Rd, turning right on Renig (if you instead turn left on Renig, you will head out to the stretch of road used in the opening scene of TP, with the "Welcome to Twin Peaks" sign in the foreground and the mountain, Mt. Si in real life, in the background), following it past Mill Pond Rd until it becomes Meadowbrook Av SE. Meadowbrook will take you back to 203, now called North Bend Blvd (or Sunset Highway). Turning right on North Bend Blvd will head you back towards the Salish. On this route you will find the Railroad Depot (a very quaint, attractive building oddly *not* used in the show), *the* gazebo (right in the middle of town, next to the train station), the giant log (seen in the opening title sequence of the premiere and in the new Twin Peaks '92 calendar), and a railroad "museum" (these are *not* the cars used in the show, however, and I found no museum as such, just these interesting, old train cars and engines parked along the road). Parking as close to the railroad cars as you can, you can walk past them, continue across a wooden bridge/footpath, and follow the tracks as they disappear into the woods. A short distance farther you will find another abandoned train car on the left; this still isn't the one! You will pass other old engines on the left, and then, perhaps a quarter mile in along these tracks, you will see a group of cars and engines, with the two on the right, kind of elevated, and with a lot of foliage now grown up between you and them, that are obviously the cars used in TP. There's an ancient, crumbling wood outhouse with a crescent moon cut into it right next to them, and I'll be darned if I didn't spot the roof of it in one of the shots from TP once I knew what I was looking at. I can't promise that the _Blue Velvet_ robin will still be perched on the top of the outhouse like it was when I visited (though I suspect there's a nest there)! You could actually park in a little off-street area right where the tracks enter the woods, but as the area is marked "No Trespassing", you may not want to call that much attention to yourself. Also, taking one of the Greek alphabet streets (Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, or Epsilon [really!]) off of 203 (which may be called Sunset Highway in town) will lead you back to the high school, which was used in the show. It was undergoing a lot of reconstruction when I was there. There is also a small cafe in Snoqualmie called "Big Ed's", which has a Twin Peaks Burger, but is otherwise unremarkable, and was not in the show. Though only peripherally related to the show, there's a historic, functioning train ride available on Saturdays (and Sundays during the summers), which departs from and returns to the Depot in Snoqualmie. I wish I'd been able to ride it. Maybe next time:-) Okay, if you've still got energy for sightseeing, turn around, and go back along 203 (or Sunset Highway or North Bend Blvd) away from the Salish. Continue on past Meadowbrook, and maybe a mile or two down the road there will be either a forced or a very obvious right turn onto Taylor Av. Go just about 3 blocks, and you will be at "the light", in the town of North Bend. This is the only traffic signal in the area, and so is referred to as "the light", and is, of course, the traffic light from TP. As you were approaching the light, you will have passed the Alpine Blossom & Gift Shoppe, a great place for TP souvenirs. Right there on the corner at the light, will be the Mar-T Cafe, known to us, of course, as the Double R Diner. The coffee's pretty decent, the cherry pie's ok. The cardboard hamburgers and fries are actually pretty good if you like that sort of thing (I do). The light is at the corner of Taylor Av and North Bend Way. If you continue on Taylor past the light, you will come to a Visitor Information Center (hut on the side of the road). They didn't actually have much info on TP when I went there, though they did direct me to Avery's Artworx, back on North Bend Way (to the South East, away from Snoqualmie), on the North-East side of the street, where Avery sells a T-Shirt and a placard with a TP-related design of his own. And, as has been mentioned on a.t.tp before, the Alpine Blossom & Gift Shoppe is the best place to go for the widest range of TP-related goodies. If you take Taylor on past the Visitor Info Center, you'll hit US 90 (Taylor is exit #31). You can take this back towards Snoqualmie to exit #27, curve under the freeway, and take Winery Road, to... you guessed it... the Snoqualmie Winery. This is the site where Laura & Donna & James videotaped their picnic. The winery has a surprisingly beautiful view of the area, and is well worth stopping by. I didn't get to go to a tasting, but, as I mentioned, their Cabernet Sauvignon was quite good. Well, I think that pretty well exhausts the TP-related stuff in the area. But who knows, you might get lucky and get to see them doing work on the film . Other things to do in the area include the Herb Farm, which supposedly has fabulous meals in addition to their attractive farm (I didn't get to go, however, so this is only from reading a Fodor's). There is a fairly decent pizza place in North Bend; I could drive there, but can't recall the name (sorry), though if I remember right, it caught my eye in the yellow pages even before the waitress at the Colonial recommended it to us. And there's a large collection of warehouse outlet stores right off one of the US 90 exits (don't recall which one, but it'll be obvious). Other attractions happen as they might... like the truck full of moose heads we saw on the freeway, and the one-armed man we spotted on the ferry... Have a wonderful visit. We sure did. Oh yeah, and just for the record, it was on our trip to Twin Peaks that our half-Newfoundland puppy got his latest nickname... Senor Drool-Pup. -- -larryy@apple.com "You wouldn't recognize a *subtle plan* if it painted itself purple, and danced naked upon a harpsichord, singing, 'Subtle Plans are Here Again'." - Edmund Blackadder Article 16183 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From larryy@Apple.COM (Larry Yaeger) Subject: Re: Twin-Peaks Itinerary Date: 24 Aug 91 02:38:12 GMT Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA In article <1991Aug22.174212.10335@amc.com> erica@anabol.amc.com () writes: >Last year someone posted the following itinerary for the North Bend/ >Snoq. Falls area. I didn't catch the author's name so I don't know >who to credit for the original posting, but this makes for a nice >daytrip for any Twin Peaks fan... > >[directions and stuff deleted] >Directly ahead of you is a restaurant that was used >for the exterior of the roadhouse (the interiors were fillmed in >Seattle at the Timberline Tavern). That's the first I've heard about the Timberline Tavern serving as the interior for the Roadhouse. Can anybody confirm this? >[more stuff deleted] >... pass through Fall City. At the bridge, bear left towards >Carnation. In Carnation, you will pass an elementary school on the >north side of town. This is the interior and exterior setting for the >Sherrif's Office. Both the local people and various magazine articles claim that the administrative office for Weyerhauser Mill was used for the Sherrif's Office. Having been there, and noting the exterior of the building, "Lucy's office", and the stone marker at the entrance to the building, I am quite certain that this is the case. If the Carnation elementary school was used in TP, it wasn't for the Sherrif's office, and I don't believe it has been mentioned in any published articles on TP. -- -larryy@apple.com "You wouldn't recognize a *subtle plan* if it painted itself purple, and danced naked upon a harpsichord, singing, 'Subtle Plans are Here Again'." - Edmund Blackadder Article 16209 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From stevenh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Steven C Herring) Subject: Re: Taking a trip to Twin Peaks (plus movie info) Date: 26 Aug 91 21:38:33 GMT Reply-To: stevenh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Steven C Herring) Just returned from Snoqualmie/North Bend and ... The movie starts filming September 3 in Snoqualmie/North Bend, Washington. It is a prequel and takes place seven days before the murder of Laura Palmer. This information from the owner of the Alpine Blossom & Gift Shoppe in North Bend, WA. As mentioned before, this shop is the best place in the area for Twin Peaks merchandise. Thanks to Larry Yaeger for his excellent trip guide. A couple of comments: 1. The cherry pie at the Mar-T cafe is indeed OK. However, the *blackberry* pie is fantastic. 2. The Ronette Pulaski railroad bridge is marked incorrectly on the fancy $8 dollar map. The location marked on the $.75 cent hand-drawn map is the correct location. The tourist train ride in Snoqualmie is not that worthwhile. This summer the train does not actually go all the way to North Bend like is usually does. It goes perhaps one mile in the North Bend direction. Then it goes the other way to Snoqualmie Falls which is less than a mile from the train station. You can't actually see the falls from the train but you do get a good view of the Salish Lodge and the canyon below the falls. The whole trip only took 35 minutes. Steve Herring stevenh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (503) 627-1498 Article 16367 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From jguy@lilith.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Bone) Subject: The Train Cars Date: 6 Sep 91 18:39:27 GMT Reply-To: jguy@lilith.EBay.Sun.COM I've received several inquiries about the train cars my wife and I found (including one guy who seemed very skeptical, as if I'd made the whole thing up --- gimme a break, will ya! :) Anyway, here are more specifics on where we found what I firmly believe are the cars in question: The spur off into the woods *after* the fenced in group is the right bunch. The yellow car and *the* car are right there; it does look as if a couple of the other cars have been pulled off down the tracks a bit. (Please note that all the exterior shots of these cars were filmed at the same time as the pilot (I believe), in Feb. of '89; it looked to me like the cars have been moved around some since. Also note that the scene apparently was shot from the far side of the tracks from Sno. --- this threw me at first until I figured out what they had done.) Here's a rough map: \y (crotchity old man) |x /z / (Sno.) the Log / [fenced cars] t/ Salish --------------------------------------------------------------- Where "t" is the transformer yard, x is the "yellow car" and the "Laura" car, and y is another couple of cars that (I believe) were pulled back along the tracks at the time the pilot was shot. After rewatching the pilot tape, I'm certain that the Laura car and the yellow car are these cars. z marks the first set of cars we looked at, not the right ones (this set of tracks dead-ends --- I dunno about the others, we didn't go back that far.) Hope this helps; can anybody up in that area confirm? Yrs, -- ---- jbone@Sun.COM -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ Jeff Bone ---- -- Article 16373 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From stevenh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Steven C Herring) Subject: Re: Snoqualmie: where IS that damned traincar?? Date: 7 Sep 1991 00:12:44 GMT In article <3036@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> sandell@ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) writes: > > Several tracks here, > Lots of cars > in the woods - > - one track, > <--- to North Bend - no cars > ==== (a) - anywhere - > `downtown' Snoqualmie = - - > = - (b) - > Fenced-in traincars in park = - - The Falls > = - - >--------------------------------=------------------- > = Salish Lodge >============================================================================== > ( The road ) > The correct answer is (a). The LPTC is on the right as you walk down the tracks. I marked the dirt road (which is blocked by a chain link gate) on the map. You can follow the dirt road to the end but you're less likely to get caught trespassing if you follow the tracks. >> down the track in the woods. It has a blue banner draped over it, >> "Save Twin Peaks." As of 8/25/91, the banner was not there. >So anyway, be warned, future Snoqualmie pilgrims: the true LPTC cannot >be easily found. I walked passed them on the way in because there were other cars in the way blocking the view. I spotted them easily as I walked back out. I followed the previously posted instructions by Larry Yaeger. >Also it's possible that >LPTC was among the dozens of cars along track (a) and I missed them... Yep, you missed 'em. There is a train of cars on the main track (a) which blocks the view of LPTC. Go around this train and come back. Obviously, this blocking train was not there during the filming. >is that the LPTC was farther down the (a) tracks than I wandered. >I went down at least as far as the other people described (1/2 mile). >With my binoculars I looked further down the tracks and about >1/4 mile farther were some sheds, no cars. So if LPTC is down (a), >it's nearly a mile in! Nope, it's there but there are a lot of other cars in front of it. When you see the LPTC, there is no doubt it is the same car. As has been said before, the two cars are together on a track by themselves which is slightly elevated from the main track and the two tracks are separated by 15 feet. Also, the weeds have grown some since the filming but not that much. A further description: There is a dirt road (marked No Traspassing) which roughly parallels track (a). The LPTC is just across the tracks from the end of the road. > >Cheers, >Greg Sandell >sandell@ils.nwu.edu (Evanston, IL) Steve Herring stevenh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (503) 627-1498 Article 16586 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From: donh@microsoft.com (Don HACHERL) Subject: Re: pilgrimage Summary: tips from a native Date: 20 Sep 91 01:06:57 GMT Organization: Microsoft Corp. In article sjohnson@texas.vlsi.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes: >Two of us from the bay area are headed up to the Snoqualmie area to >check out the filming site. From anyone out there that has done the >same, or those that live in the area, I'd like to hear your opinions >as to THE places to see. Of course, I realize we must see the Great >Northern (Salish Lodge), the falls, train car, etc. Any other advice? > >Thanks in advance, >sj Beat the crowds and see your landmarks in advance! If you head east from the North Bend stoplight about a mile and a half you'll come to the intersection with Mt Si Road, and the neon-lit Mt Si Motel. The Mt Si Motel was never used in the TV series, but this last weekend it got its sign redressed (with a large red diamond (*) shaped thing on top) and was used as a set in filming the movie. It looks like a classic edge-of-town-sleazy-motel. Driving home on Monday I had to sit around and wait a couple minutes while they blocked off the roads to film a shot. Driving by, it looked like they had lights set up to film a scene at the door of one of the motel units. I don't know where they're filming now, but you can just drive around and look for the army of motorhomes. Don __ /\ (*) diamond means / \ , not / \ , as in the gem, not the geometric shape. \ / \ / \/ \/ -- Don Hacherl (donh@microsoft.com) "Sorry, no pithy quotes today" Disclaimer: Little of what I say should be taken seriously, and none should be taken as the opinion of my employer. Article 17046 of alt.tv.twin-peaks: >From sandell@ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) Subject: Re: Where was the opening shot filmed? Date: 27 Oct 91 18:57:27 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Originator: sandell@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu The person posting asked for directions to the site in Snoqualmie where the TP sign appeared. Last August I went out there and used the following directions which I got from Stewart Schultz : > Opening sequence with "Welcome to TP" sign: stay on Reinig Road > after intersection with 396. Twin Peaks (Mt. Si) straight ahead. > Continue about 1/2 mile to a turnout on the right hand side. The > cottonwoods aren't bare as in the opening shot, but this is the site. These directions were perfect. The only thing missing is the exact location of where Reinig road begins, but I was able to find it with little trouble. It's the same road that the Railroad trestle is on, which is just before 396. "396," by the way, refers to a street called "396 Road." Alot of streets have there names like that. By the way, does anyone know, are those streets numbered from some point originating in Seattle?? Another poster wrote about the site of the sign: > (Of course, the Welcome to Twin Peaks sign > is missing, but you can see the holes where it was....) Actually, I could still see evidence of one piece of broken off timber-wood still in the ground. When I took a picture from exactly that spot, the photograph looked astonishingly like the opening shot, to the point where friends I show the picture to immediately gasp when they see it. But there were some important differences...somehow in the TV shot the mountains appear MUCH larger (telephoto lens?), and they appear to have digitally edited the telephone poles to omit the wires, crossbridges, and transformers, so that the poles look almost like trees. Clever people, those movie makers. -- Greg Sandell Institute for the Learning Sciences sandell@ils.nwu.edu Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Article: 18120 of alt.tv.twin-peaks From: glandon@nmt.edu (Gregory Landon) Subject: Snoqualmie and area tour. Organization: New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 20:54:24 GMT Hi, this is Greg Landon, the one that posted the big White and Black Lodge analysis a couple of days ago. As I said, I am from Seattle, and like to go to Snoqualmie and North Bend as often as I can. I will be moving back to Seattle around the middle of May, and would be happy to lead tours up to the Twin Peaks area for anyone who is interested. I can even come pick you up at the airport since it is only about three miles from my house. If you are interested in a personal tour, email me or call me on the phone, and we can probably work something out. For those of you who aren't interested, here is a list of the locations I know about and the best directions I have to get there. First off, get on I-90 heading east out of Seattle. Follow the signs to North Bend(Exit 31 I think). Follow the road you end up on into town, and you will eventually see the Mar-T Cafe(RR-diner). Stop in and grab a piece of pie and a cup of joe. You may not recognize the interior, because it was only used in the pilot. Back on the road you were on before, there is a flower and gift shop on the other side of the stop light and they have all kinds of Twin Peaks souvineers. The large hill you see is Mt. Si(sigh), seen in the show. That is pretty much all there is in North Bend, so get back on the same road heading away from the freeway, and continue on around a sharp corner which will put you on HWY 203. Follow this for a few miles, and eventually you will enter Snoqualmie. You will see Big Edd's Family Dining on the right, not the same building, and not a gas station, but no doubt where the name came from (not sure how the food is). Twin Peaks High School is also known as Mt. Si H.S., but unfortunately, I don't have directions to get there. The town isn't that big, so you will more than likely stumble upon it if you look just a little. The next thing in Snoqualmie is the Great Northern(Salish Lodge), and the falls. You can stay at the Salish Lodge, but it will run you $165.00 a night, and the inside is not like the show. Spend a few moments in awe of the power of the falls, and if you like, there is a trail going down to a viewpoint at the bottom, that viewpoint is quite a ways away, and you may want to climb down and walk all the way up to the pool at the bottom of the falls. >From here, head north(the direction you were giong) and you will come to a junction of HWY 203 and HWY 202. Here there is a town called Fall City, and the Continental hotel and restaurant on the corner is known to us as the Roadhouse. I have never been inside, but the outside shots used are from the empty lot behind it. Head out on HWY 202 to head towards Big Ed's Gas Farm. This is kind of disappointing, the top round part has been taken off, and it is now a wind-sok store. It is VERY hard to find, in fact, the last time I went up there, I drove right past it. You may be able to spot the train car Laura was killed in before you get to the falls and Great Northern, and I guess the train bridge Ronette walked across are somewhere in Snoqualmie too. As for the other places, they either don't exist, or I haven't been able to find them. If anyone else knows of any other places, please email them to me and I will try to find them. The scenery and landscapes in the area are more beautiful in person than they were on the show. While you are in this area, I encourage you to visit Mount Ranier, and if you can manage, Mount St. Helens. I hope this will help anyone who is going to "Twin Peaks," and if you have any questions about me being a tour guide for you or the show, email them to me. glandon@jupiter.nmt.edu Greg Landon Box 2062 campus station Socorro, NM 87801 (505) 835-6315 after May 10 or so, 19705 34th Ave So Seattle, WA 98188 (206) 824-1340 Article: 18127 of alt.tv.twin-peaks From: schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz) Subject: Re: Twin Peaks/Snoqualmie FAQ's? Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 08:18:22 GMT In article <1992Mar4.142411.3248@fig.citib.com> dmp@fig.citib.com (Donna M. Paino) writes: >Lots of people from the Snoqualmie area have posted (in bits and pieces) some >of the sites to visit on a Twin Peaks pilgrammage. But no one's put it >all in one place, in one posting. Is anyone out there up to the challenge? I visited Snoqualmie/North Bend twice over the summer, and saw all the major exterior locations. Here's my best recollection how to find them (you'll need a Snoqualmie street map, available anywhere in the area). Corrections/additions welcome! RR diner: the Mar-T Diner on the corner of 1st (=North Bend Way) and North Bend Blvd., North Bend. Twin Peaks Sheriff Office: Weyerhauser Mill Office in Snoqualmie: Turn north off 202 onto Meadowbrook Way, which turns into Reinig Road after crossing the river. Just past the RR trestle turn left at 396, then take first left. The trestle before 396 is where Ronette Pulaski was found wandering. Packard Mill: Weyerhauser Mill above. Twin Peaks High School: Mt. Si High School, 1/4 mile north of 202 on Meadowbrook Way. Opening sequence with "Welcome to TP" sign: stay on Reinig Road after intersection with 396. Twin Peaks (Mt. Si) straight ahead. Continue about 1 mile to a turnout on the right where the road meets the river again. You'll know this is the spot by the pattern of cottonwoods and telephone poles against Mt. Si. Big Tree (in opening sequence first season): Village Green Park, center of Snoqualmie on Snoqualmie-North Bend Road. Railroad Cars (where Laura was found): just north of Village Green park on west side of the road. North of the fenced-in cars, follow the first spur of tracks to the NW past the transformers and into the woods. Continue over a wooden bridge/footpath about 1/4 mile to a pair of cars to the right, slightly elevated, on a separate track about 15 feet from the main track. An outhouse is next to them. There have been rumors that these cars were moved sometime in the fall, however. Great Northern/TP Falls: Salish Inn/Snoqualmie Falls in Snoqualmie on Fall City-Snoqualmie Road. Roadhouse: Colonial Inn at intersection of Highway 202 and Preston-Fall City Road in Fall City. Much better food than the Mar-T. Big Ed's Gas Station: Windstreamers kite shop in Preston on Preston-Fall City Road at 86 Place near Highway 90. The only interior I know (haven't been here yet, though): Great Northern: Kiana Lodge in Poulsbo, Washington. Snoqualmie/North Bend are about 30 minutes east of Seattle on U.S. 90. The Mar-T sells cherry pies by the truckload, and has lotsa memorabilia from the series on the walls (incl. photos of Lynch and some of the actors as they partook of the so-so dining there). The Alpine Blossom Gift Shop a couple blocks from the Mar-T sells TP souvenirs, including the TP Gazette, logs, t-shirts, coffee mugs. They also sell crude freehand maps of the exterior shots, but I still couldn't find them without a street map. Motels ------- There are five motels in the area, all in North Bend, a campground in Fall City, and a trailer park with tent sites in North Bend. The motels are often full by early afternoon on weekends, so make reservations early. The motels are: Mt. Si (206) 888-1621 Apple Tree Inn 888-3572 North Bend Motel 888-1121 a block from Mar-T Nor'west Motel 888-1939 Sunset Motel 888-0381 a block from Mar-T The Colonial Inn (Roadhouse) rents only by the month; the Salish Inn (Great Northern) starts at over $150 per night. -S. Schultz From: athena@cheshire.oxy.edu (Staci Ann Waldroop) Subject: Re: Real TP Places. Date: 30 Apr 92 06:41:38 GMT Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 In article <1992Apr22.024646.8504@nmt.edu> glandon@nmt.edu (Gregory Landon) writes: > > Could whoever posted the very extensive list of the places used in >the filming of Twin Peaks and their actual locations in Snoqualmie, North >Bend, etc. please repost it, or email me a copy. > > Thanks in advance, > Greg Landon > glandon@jupiter.nmt.edu I am new to this news group, so I did not see the original list, but if you are going to the North Bend area, there is a map available at a Hallmark store in NB. Once you come off the I-90 freeway and come to the intersection in frontof the Mar-T (Double "R") Cafe, park. Within sight is the Hallmark store, so just walk to it. They have various tee-shirts and memorabilia available in addition to two variations of the map- and feel free to talk to just about any- one in the store about the show- during the US haitus, they had a stack of signed petitions that was about six inches thick that they mailed to the stationheadquarters-it's fan central! I can tell you that, outside of the Mar-T, the intersection there is where you'll find the swinging stoplight, the mounain thatis in view [Mt. Si] is the real "twin peaks", although you'd have to drive all the way around them to see the show view point. The high school in town is Twin Peaks High, and of course, Snoqualamie falls and the Salish Inn are where you'll find the magnificent falls and "Great Northern". Sorry I couldn't be of more help. If you want the address of the Hallmark, send me a note via e-mail- I have it, but not with me right now- they will ship you anything you want, and their prices are reasonable [with the possible exception of the trading card]. As I said, it's fan central. Better yet, move to Washington- it's beautiful, if a little wierd- they didn't film TP and NE there for nothing!!!!! Antigone From: saseph@hal.unx.sas.com (Ed Hughes) Subject: Re: Twin Peaks Addresses Organization: SAS Institute Inc. Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 13:23:57 GMT In article <1992May3.210135.23672@cheshire.oxy.edu>, athena@cheshire.oxy.edu (Staci Ann Waldroop) writes: >Hello again. I mentione a few days back that I had some addresses for >places in North Bend, WA and I have since received three email messages >requesting said messages. Therefore, I will now post them here for all ] >to see and use at their will! >For the Hallmark store: > Alpine Blossom and Gift Shoppe > P.O.Box 808 > North Bend, WA 98045 > >For the *real* Double "R" Diner: > Mar-T Cafe > North Bend, WA 98045 > >I hope you get a lot of use out of these. Just write to them and I'm sure they'd be willing to send you a list of items they sell. The Hallmark store Or you can phone--the Alpine Blossom # is (206)888-2900 or 888-0336. -- Ed Hughes, SAS Institute | "Don't point that goat at me--it might go off!" Cary, NC | --Tom Servo, "Slime People," MST3000 | From: athena@cheshire.oxy.edu (Staci Ann Waldroop) Subject: Twin Peaks Addresses Date: 3 May 92 21:01:35 GMT Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 Hello again. I mentione a few days back that I had some addresses for places in North Bend, WA and I have since received three email messages requesting said messages. Therefore, I will now post them here for all ] to see and use at their will! For the Hallmark store: Alpine Blossom and Gift Shoppe P.O.Box 808 North Bend, WA 98045 For the *real* Double "R" Diner: Mar-T Cafe North Bend, WA 98045 I hope you get a lot of use out of these. Just write to them and I'm sure they'd be willing to send you a list of items they sell. The Hallmark store caries several [6-8] different kinds of teeshirts, the videos, calendars, mugs some posters, the books, trading cards, etc. They also have a few NEXP tees andposters, so if you like that show, be sure to ask them for a list of those itemsto be included. There is another store there that has a few items [tee's whith messages such as "where the *@!#% is Sicely, Alaska?" etc.], but I don't have the address. If you inquired, you might be able to get the address from people at the places above. ANTIGONE!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. I hope those of you in cities around the USA have not had to go through the fear and uncertainty that we have here in LA. If you're in North Bend in the next few weeks, down a mug, much a doughnut, and savor a piece of pie for me- I really miss the quiet of home! =<