Finding a Job

This document contains answers to questions posed by students concerning finding a job. The questions were mainly geared toward students who have graduated and are pursuing a career in either academia or industry. The information has been broken into a set of questions and their answers. Answers relevant to academia and/or industry are grouped together under the answer for a specific question. All answers are in a casual brainstorming format.

Note: All answers are the opinions of graduate students and faculty members and may not reflect the current state of the job market. However, some answers may be relevant to different job climates.


Questions and answers below are from the panel discussion held on April 10, 1997.

Questions

  1. How to prepare yourself for getting a job?
  2. Resources for finding jobs?
  3. Tips for writing a resume or CV?
  4. How much time will I spend looking for a job?
  5. How will research fit into my job?
  6. How to know what I'm worth?
  7. How to find out about a potential employer?
  8. Tips for interviewing?
  9. What about followup after interviews?
  10. I've been hired...Is my thesis done?
  11. Issues unique to industry jobs?
  12. Issues for foreigners?

Q1:
Preparing yourself for getting a job?
A1:
One of the best things you can do is to network, or rather, to get to know lots of people. It can be much easier to get a job at a place if you know someone there. Your contact may not be able to hire you themselves but they might be able to be your advocate, or tell you how to market yourself, or give you other good pieces of information about the potential employer.

One way to meet people is to talk to people at conferences. Also, consider talking to people that come to speak at colloquiums in the department or elsewhere.


Q2:
Resources for finding jobs?
A2:
Here are some resources with job listings.

  1. Computing publications like Comm. of the ACM, IEEE Trans. on Whatever, and others that relate to your area of work.
  2. Some web pages list academic job positions, like Computing Research News Online. Use search engines and indices to find others.
  3. The BU CS Dept. has listings of jobs.
  4. Newsgroups, such as the group for jobs in New England, ne.jobs
  5. Newspaper listings of jobs.
  6. Recruiters. Some companies send out recruiters to schools or other places to find qualified potential employees. Recruiters often want people with job experience.
  7. Headhunters. These are people that are hired by companies to fill positions in those companies. They are usually independent contractors and represent more than one company.
  8. Job fairs. There are listings for area job fairs where companies send recruiters.

Q3:
Tips for writing a resume or CV?
A3:
You should spend time on your resume. Have someone who has experience in the field in which you are applying look at the resume. They can give you tips on where to focus your attention since it is better to have a shorter resume that really hits the spot of what an employer is looking for rather than a book-long resume listing all your talents, but that no one wants to read.

Expect to produce different versions of your resume that stress what a particular employer wants to see. You may have the opportunity to provide a short cover letter. Cover letters give slightly more personal statements about what you hope to do at a potential employer and why you are well qualified.

While a resume for academia and for industry may share the same parts, these job arenas stress different skills.

Academia

The academic form of a resume, known as the Cirriculum Vitae (CV), focuses more on research (and possibly teaching) experience. You should emphasize your publications as part of your research record.

With a CV, expect to provide a short cover letter. The cover letter may be a good opportunity to write a research statement emplaining what you've done. Include a teaching statement if teaching skills are important to the institution.

You are usually allowed to write a longer CV than you would a resume.

Here is Mark Crovella's CV as an example.

Industry

Industry resumes should focus more on skills and prior experience on projects, such as software systems or even school projects. Typically, knowledge of operating systems and programming languages follows your experience or accomplishments.

Limit your resume to 2 pages.

Here is Arif Bhatti's resume (in Postscript) as an example.


Q4:
How much time will I spend looking for a job?
A4:
You should expect to do a lot of legwork to find a job. People looking for academic jobs can expect to do more work than someone looking for a position in industry.

Academia

Positions in theory are particularly hard to find now. The academic applicant can expect to send out between 30-100 applications. Institutions typically receive between 100-1000 responses to openings.

For academic positions, it is very useful to know someone in the department to which you are applying. They can introduce you to people, give you information about the department (such as who looks at applications during the search process), and be your internal advocate during the search process.


Q5:
How will research fit into my job?
A5:
As someone who will probably do research as part of your degree program, research is something you may or may not want to do as part of your career. Both academia and industry can span a range of attitudes toward research duties.

Academia

For an academic position, you should be aware of the relative importance placed on research vs. teaching as part of your job. A separate issue may be the importance of research and other accomplishments in the tenure process. Be aware at what level tenure is decided (department or college level) since the kind of research required as part of your job and as part of the tenure process can be different.

Industry

In industry, the question is your employer's attitude toward research vs. development.

Be aware that an important part of research is publications. Industry employers may have different attitudes about publishing internal research because of competition and patent issues. Ranges of policies might be:


Q6:
How to know what I am worth?
A6:
You should know ahead of time what are reasonable salaries for any job that you are considering. Keep in mind that salaries can vary from place to place due to differences in the cost of living, etc.

Academia

Statistics on salaries are available from the Computing Research Association.

Industry

Headhunters can tell you what you are worth. You can also discover ranges of salaries from job descriptions in the newspaper.


It is more advantageous to have your employer mention a salary before you do. Remember, you should include benefits and stock options in considering their offer.

Q7:
How to find out about a potential employer?
A7:
It is important to research a place you may want to work. This can help you decide if you truly want to work there. In addition, it can help you market yourself towards the employer's needs.

You'll benefit from knowing someone already working for a potential employer who can give you some information about the place.

Academia

Find out what kind of research is being done in the department. How will your area of interest fit in? Do you fill in an area where the department is lacking? Will your work complement the research others are doing? Are there opportunities for you to collaborate with members of the department?

How big is the department? What are typical sources of funding in the department? The strength of the chairperson is often an indicator of the strength of the department.

Tenure. Do you have any chance of getting tenure? Some places only give tenure to the top people on the planet.

Industry

Many companies now have web pages that tell about the company.

You may want to know about the health of the company by looking at their annual report or by their perfomance on the stock market.

How big is the company? What is the corporate culture?

Interview Process. If you know someone already at the company, ask what to expect during an interview...What is the person giving the interview like? What will happen during the interview? Will they test your skills?


Q8:
Tips for interviewing?
A8:
Remember that the interview is a sales process--you are trying to sell yourself to a potential employer. Be enthusiastic--act like you want to work there. Dig up and match your strength to what the employer is looking for. Think about what qualities you want to convey about yourself. For example, if you think you are organized, how will you convey that?

Be professional. You can expect to be and dress a little more formal than you would going to work every day.

Have a list of questions you'd like to ask.

Academia

For an academic position, you can expect to give a talk on your research. Make sure you practice this talk in front of an audience ahead of time, and get some feedback on how your talk can be improved.

Talk tips

  1. Present an outline of how your talk will proceed. This is one way to demonstrate that you are organized.
  2. Motivate your work (assume they know nothing about your field).
  3. Include some information that people familiar with your field would know about (i.e., demonstrate that you actually know your field).
  4. Then, wow them with your work.

Make sure that your accomplishments are crystal clear. It is bad if you end your talk and the audience isn't sure what stuff you did and what stuff other people did.


You can expect to meet with faculty in the department. The department chairperson will usually go through job requirements with you. You may also have to meet with other administrative officials such as a dean or you may meet with students in the department. Expect a long day. Take the opportunity to ask about the department, the institution, and the area, to find out if it is a place you really want to be.

Industry

During the interview process, you may have the opportunity to meet with other people at the company. If you meet with potential coworkers, are they people you'd like to work with? Remember that the people you'll work with may be different than the person who interviews you.

Representatives from a company's Human Resources department can give you information about expectations of employees, such as proper attire.

If you get to tour the place and meet company employees, how do you feel about the atmosphere at the company.


At the end of the interview process, you can ask when a decision will be made.

Q9:
What about followup after interviews?
A9:
Be more aggressive than you normally would. Call people, push your advisors to assist you, and make callbacks to find out the progress of your application. Consider sending thank you notes.

Academia

Once you get your first job offer, pressure other institutions to give you a decision. Institutions may want an answer from you fairly quickly and it is better to have all your eggs together to choose from.


Q10:
I've been hired...Is my thesis done?
A10:
The best thing is for you to be completely done with your degree work when you are supposed to report to work. However, this doesn't always happen.

To help prevent this, avoid the trap of producing just a few more results. Budget time to write up your dissertation.

If you must continue your degree work while working, find out how flexible a potential employer might be about this. Will they let you start out part-time while you finish your work and then switch to full-time when you are done?


Q11:
Issues unique to industry jobs?
A11:
Employees who plan to be at a company for the long term should consider the opportunities for advancement and job security.

Traditionally, companies doing technical work have 2 work tracks. The technical track is the progression of jobs by which technical people can advance, from lowly worker to some kind of lead technical person. The managerial track represents the positions that managers can progress through.

Essentially, this just means that there are different sets of jobs that technical people and managerial people can be promoted through. In the past, some companies only provided higher advancement through management positions, meaning that techies might have to become managers to advance beyond a certain point. However, many companies are getting better about not ignoring their technical people. Nonetheless, you may find that there are still more opportunities to make more money and/or advance more quickly via a managerial track. If you are only interested in doing technical work, think about how far you can advance in the technical track.

In addition, you should be aware of the trends in job security at a company or in the industry in general. Buyouts of companies can occur that result in layoffs of employees, including consolidation of management after mergers. Techies will want to keep there technical skills sharp in case that they need to find a new job some day.


Q12:
Issues for foreigners?
A12:
Non-U.S. citizens face some extra challenges in finding a job. Most jobs will require applying for some special status, such as getting a Green Card or an H1. Currently, there is less resistence to hiring foreigner, especially for jobs that require real skills. In addition, there may be more openness in places like Boston that are very cosmopolitan. Places that are interested in hiring talented people may be able to assist with the process of applying for a work permit, and some may be familiar with the process from past hirings.

There may be slightly more resistence in academia, where relevant questions are "Can they teach and convey ideas in English?" or "Do they have a strong accent?"

You can avoid wasted effort by finding out what companies accept foreigners as applicants and by clearing stating your foreign status on your resume.


U.S. citizens with foreign-sounding names might benefit from clearing stating their citizenship on their resumes.


Brown Bag Lunch / Robert I. Pitts <rip@cs.bu.edu>